TOKYO ELECTRON LIMITED

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Q2 FY2024 Earnings Release Conference Q&A

What kind of growth are you expecting to see by application for WFE*¹ in CY2024? You mentioned that CY2024 and CY2025 combined would be $200B, but if we assume $90B for CY2024, that would mean CY2025 will be $110B. Which regions or applications are you expecting to see growth in to account for this large $20B increase?

Although we are still at the stage of consuming inventory for DRAM and logic/foundry, we expect that there will be a significant recovery from the middle of CY2024 onward, and that there will be further growth in CY2025 driven by AI server demand. On the other hand, we expect that adjustments for NAND will continue until the end of CY2024.

While your outlook for WFE in CY2023 has increased, you have made almost no adjustments to your sales estimate for the second half. What is causing this difference? Also, and a qualitative answer is fine here, what is the status of the outlook for the SAM*² in CY2024 compared to the previous announcement?

We made an upward adjustment of $15B for WFE in CY2023 compared to the previous market outlook and one factor for this increase was due to a delay in the delivery of lithography equipment and other equipment causing a delay in sales recording. We expect that our SAM will expand through an intrinsic recovery in the market in CY2024. In addition, the reason we were able to end up with better results than our initial estimate for the first half of FY2024 was due to some results from the second half being recorded ahead of schedule. The market is trending toward recovery overall, and the portion that was brought forward is being covered by market recovery and investment in China.

Mature node equipment did well in China in CY2023, and there appears to have been a lot of inquiries regarding lithography scanner. Do you expect that, although TEL’s sales of new equipment in CY2023 will underperform in terms of WFE, you will be able to outperform in CY2024 through increased investment in leading-edge nodes?

This upward revision of $15B in CY2023 WFE was due largely to portions that did not correspond to our SAM. It is not a positive situation for our market share at present, due in part to the depreciation of the yen. On the other hand, we are steadily increasing the number of PORs*³, and we believe that we will increase our share in CY2024 and CY2025 as demand recovers.

You indicated that you expect the gross profit margin to improve in the second half compared to the first half, but what will cause this improvement? Furthermore, the depreciation of the yen has been progressing rapidly recently, but have suppliers asked for any price increases? If so, will this become a factor of cost increase for TEL from the next fiscal year onward?

We were able to achieve a higher margin in the first half than we expected, by selling high value-added products at the appropriate price. We expect gross profit margin to improve in the second half as sales will be higher. We have seen no cases of sharp increases in purchase prices from suppliers this fiscal year. As technological innovation is extremely fast in this industry, customers request for new added value every 1.5 to 2 years. By listening to the voices of suppliers and selling products with new added value at appropriate prices, we believe we can continue to maintain sound business.

We have heard rumors that TEL has acquired POR for cryogenic etching tools. Is there anything you can tell us about this? We are concerned that TEL’s methods may be copied by others as TEL attempts to assertively demonstrate technological superiority.
Furthermore, it appears TEL is increasing its cleaning equipment market share in China, but is it possible that other companies with proven delivery track records may retake their market shares?

Compared to conventional technology, cryogenic etching has superior productivity and environmental performance; TEL has already acquired development PORs from some customers, and evaluations are progressing steadily. As the 400-layer level is our main target, we expect the prime timing for investment will arrive in CY2025. This technology may be used ahead of schedule and applied to previous nodes, and we are working with customers to evaluate it further. Although we do face competition, our differentiated technology has been recognized by customers, and our analysis suggests that we maintain the advantages we have previously announced.
Regarding cleaning equipment, while other competitors also have good equipment, we are expanding our market share by achieving greater technological differentiation. We are very hopeful for the future.

Has there been any equipment with a notable market share increase in the first half of FY2024? You mentioned that lithography scanner have been performing well recently. Has coater/developer seen strong growth as well? And do you think that there may be fewer inquiries in FY2025 as a result of this strong performance?

Though this fiscal year has been an adjustment period, we have managed to achieve our initial plans with comparatively strong accuracy. The performance of coater/developer was particularly strong compared to our initial expectations. There are no particular risks we need to be mindful of for FY2025. It has also been notable that orders for HBM*⁴ bonders for mass production use have finally begun to accelerate abruptly. Additionally, we were able to acquire PORs in conductor etching for logic/foundry patterning.

You mentioned that investment in China has been extremely strong. For which applications in particular have you seen extensive inquiries? Are you also seeing new customers?

In China, the segment we call "MAGIC*⁵" is the primary market. We have seen around 20 to 30 new customers, and going forward we expect to see the Chinese market grow even further. When it comes to the global WFE market for MAGIC applications, we expect it will be around $30B for CY2023, moving forward to CY2030 we expect this to reach around $50B or even greater.

You indicated that Chinese demand will continue to be strong in CY2024 and CY2025. Have you already received inquiries for CY2025? If so, are there any differences in the intensity of the demand between CY2024 and CY2025? Are mature nodes and DRAM investments also expected for CY2025?

We have already received inquiries from China for CY2024, so we can expect some visibility. Our forecast for the first half of CY2024 in particular shows that China will continue to represent around 40% of sales by region. When we say that CY2025 is going to be a big market, this isn't just because of the Chinese market: we expect that AI servers will be a driving force with a CAGR of 31% from CY2023 to CY2027. Inventory adjustment will be completed by then, and we also expect to see further growth from NAND in addition to the DRAM as well as logic/foundry. Also, in addition to demand for PC and smartphone replacements, we have strong expectations for the addition of new on-device AI features on those devices.

Is there a risk that Chinese regulations may tighten in the future? Furthermore, regarding the sustainability of investment in China, I assume that suppliers will also need to engage in capital investment given the unyielding momentum of power semiconductor investments in China, but is there a risk of oversupply?

We are not in a position to comment on regulations. At the same time, we expect that demand will continue to expand due to the realization both digitalization and decarbonization, the expansion of the semiconductor device market, and an increase in new applications. We believe these demands will be covered somewhere regardless of the manufacturing location. We also believe that WFE overall will grow sustainably from a mid- to long-term perspective.

I would like to ask about the production capacity of bonders. We have heard that, as HBM demand has been increasing rapidly in response to generative AI, customers are experiencing difficulties due to the limited production capacity at TEL. What is the status of TEL's current production capacity, and what expansion plans are there for the next fiscal year?

As inquiries have increased rapidly from South Korean customers in particular, things were quite tight for us at the beginning of the term. Since then, however, we have been able to expand our production capacity by several degrees thanks to the cooperation of our partner companies. Our inability to meet HBM demand due to a lack of parts and components has already been resolved.

You indicated that FY2024 sales of bonders for HBM are around 10B yen, but what business opportunities exist for TEL in terms of generative AI for CY2023 and the next 2 to 3 years? Are there any other business opportunities besides bonders?

Besides bonders, we are seeing various business opportunities in generative AI and are preparing new products as well. We are currently devising strategies to maximize business opportunities for TEL, and will announce them when the time comes.

WFE (Wafer Fab Equipment): The semiconductor production process is divided into front-end production, in which circuits are formed on wafers and inspected, and back-end production, in which wafers are cut into chips, assembled and inspected again. WFE refers to the production equipment used in front-end production and in wafer-level packaging production.

SAM: Served Available Market

POR: Process of Record

HBM: High Bandwidth Memory

MAGIC (Metaverse, Autonomous mobility, Green energy, IoT & Information, Communications): A concept TEL has created to further expand business opportunities

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